QRZ! Ham Radio 3/QRZ Ham Radio Callsign Database - Volume 3.iso/digests/infoham/940136.txt

Internet Message Format | 1994-06-04 | 24.6 KB

Date: Fri, 11 Feb 94 17:30:12 PST
From: Info-Hams Mailing List and Newsgroup <[e-mail]>
Errors-To: [e-mail]
Reply-To: [e-mail]
Precedence: Bulk
Subject: Info-Hams Digest V94 #136
To: Info-Hams


Info-Hams Digest            Fri, 11 Feb 94       Volume 94 : Issue  136

Today's Topics:
              1974 Fox Tango Newsletters needed (Yaesu)
                        40 Meter Loop Antenna
    Cal. State Univ. Northridge Police Dept. earthquake experience
           Copying High-Speed CW: Print or Script? (2 msgs)
                         Golf Causes Cancer!
                       Help w/ GE MPro Repeater
                       Nude amateur radio clubs
                          ORBS$042.2L.AMSAT
                        Power Supply Questions
                    This Week on Spectrum 02/12/94
                     Yaesu FT-5100 <-> MFJ-1270B

Send Replies or notes for publication to: <[e-mail]>
Send subscription requests to: <[e-mail]>
Problems you can't solve otherwise to [e-mail].

Archives of past issues of the Info-Hams Digest are available
(by FTP only) from UCSD.Edu in directory "mailarchives/info-hams".

We trust that readers are intelligent enough to realize that all text
herein consists of personal comments and does not represent the official
policies or positions of any party.  Your mileage may vary.  So there.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Date: 8 Feb 94 13:53:05
From: nntp.ucsb.edu!library.ucla.edu!agate!msuinfo!netnews.upenn.edu!mipg.upenn.edu![e-mail]
Subject: 1974 Fox Tango Newsletters needed (Yaesu)
To: [e-mail]

I have ordered (as part of a group purchase) the Yaesu FoxTango
newsletters from IRC.  Unfortunately, the 1974 newsletters are no
longer available.  I would like to obtain copies of the 1974
newsletters.  Does anyone have them?  I would be more than happy to
pay for copying charges.


--
Medical Image Processing Group     |                  Conway Yee, N2JWQ
411 Blockley Hall                  |  EMAIL : [e-mail]
418 Service Drive                  |  VOICE : 1 [phone]
Philadelphia, PA 19104-6021 (USA)  |  FAX   : [phone]

------------------------------

Date: 10 Feb 94 14:54:01 GMT
From: ucsnews!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!roundup.crhc.uiuc.edu!eagle.csl.uiuc.edu![e-mail]
Subject: 40 Meter Loop Antenna
To: [e-mail]

See January '94 issue of WorldRadio magazine, p. 62 concerning the "camping"
comment, i.e. 2-turn, 5.5 ft diameter 40-80 vertical-loop. Also see the
June '93 issue (160-80-40 compact loops) for similar information.
--

Internet, BITNET: [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: 11 Feb 1994 20:40:41 GMT
From: news.service.uci.edu!mothra.nts.uci.edu![e-mail]
Subject: Cal. State Univ. Northridge Police Dept. earthquake experience
To: [e-mail]

The following article was lifted from the February 1994 edition of the
California Public-Safety Radio Association (CPRA) newsletter and is
written by Mr. Robert A. Stoffel.  Mr. Stoffel is the Operations
Chairperson.  CPRA is a Chapter of Associated Public-Safety Commu-
nications Officers, Inc.

I've edited the text very lightly, but the information is unaffected.
The article is posted in rec.radio.amateur.misc because amateur radio
is discussed as a disaster recovery aid.


CPRA - Operations Chairman
Robert A. Stoffel
County of Orange
Communications Division
840 N. Eckhoff St, Suite 104
Orange, CA  92688-1021
Phone: [phone]
FAX:   [phone]

NEWS AND VIEWS FROM THE OPERATIONS COMMITTEE
 . .      "Attention All Units and Stations"


     Greetings from the Operations Committee.  Everyone in Southern
California is still talking about the recent earthquake, so I thought
I would take a trip to the public safety communications center that
was closest to the epicenter.  This was of course the California State
University Police Department at California State University,
Northridge.  The Police Department is on the first floor of a four
story building located on the campus.  The other three floors are used
for student dorms.

     Cal State Northridge Police Dispatch is like your typical small
sized law enforcement operation.  The Police Department operates on a
VHF high-band simplex radio system, with a remote base located on top
of an eight story campus building.  A backup local base is also
installed at the police building.  Communications on this channel,
plus several other campus operations is accomplished from a two-bay,
Motorola CentraComm II console.  The center also houses a compliment
of equipment, including a CLETs terminal, CCTV monitors, alarm panels
and printers.

     During the early morning hours of January 17, only one dispatcher
and one patrol unit was on duty.  Most of the campus was vacant, as
the school was on recess.  Only about 500 students were living in
campus housing facilities, as opposed to the 2,000 that are normally
on-site when school is in session.  This of course doesn't count the
many thousands of students who would have been on campus if classes
were in session.  At 04:30:55.3 (local time) the M6.8 earthquake struck,
and immediately knocked out all power and telephone systems.  All
contents inside the dispatch center went flying, and the immediate
structural damage started.  The emergency generator did not start,
causing failure of the base station radios and loss of all power.  The
dispatcher was able to escape flying and falling equipment until the
shaking stopped, however, the damage was so severe that the doors were
jammed shut, preventing an exit from the building.  Another officer
was able to help the dispatcher escape,  On the way out, all portable
radios were grabbed and brought out with them.

     With no place to go, all operations were moved to an open field
on campus.  Operations continued in this field for the next 24 hours
until inspection teams checked the damage and declared it safe to
return.  Officer Dana Archer, who was off duty at the time, arrived on
campus within a couple of hours.  Having a background in communica-
tions, Dana was able to improvise a field dispatch center.

     This was accomplished by taking a mobile radio, hooking it to a
power supply, then to a portable generator.  A car antenna was used as
the "base" antenna.  By the second day Cal State University, Fullerton
provided a mobile command post trailer that was used as a field
dispatch center, especially during aftershocks when the main building
was again evacuated.

     Officer Archer provides some food for thought, after experiencing
the devastation of this earthquake, for other dispatch centers.  Start
with the basics, like ensuring all equipment in the center is secure,
and supplies like water and food are readily available.

     From that point, make sure that bigger things are established in
your agency.  For example, each agency should have a designated ECO
and a mobile command vehicle that can accommodate a communications
center operation, should it be necessary to evacuate your own center.
Have some type of back-up communications equipment that can talk to an
adjoining agency.  Cal State Northridge Police have an LAPD radio, and
all emergency requests for law and fire assistance were placed over
this radio, since all phone lines were down.  Several fires broke out
on the campus, and this was the only link available for obtaining
assistance.  Finally, use the resources of amateur radio.  If not
established, start a RACES program to supplement and support the
communication needs of your agency when disaster strikes.  Cal State
Northridge does not have such a program in place, but Officer Archer
noted that if they had, it would have been an excellent way to commu-
nicate with the "outside world".

     I want to thank CSUN Police Office Dana Archer for taking the
time to give us all something to think about, and items to check on at
our own dispatch center.  He leaves us with this comment, which
applies to every agency, large or small, "If you are expected to
provide public safety service, you have to have a plan, a back-up
plan, and the facilities to handle an emergency such as this."

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 11 Feb 1994 16:14:33 GMT
From: world![e-mail]
Subject: Copying High-Speed CW: Print or Script?
To: [e-mail]

[e-mail] (Mike Gauland) writes:

>A mailing I read is involved in a comparision of the speeds of
>printing and cursive writing.  I decided to consult some experts.
>So, all you high-speed CW ops, which do _you_ use?

>Michael A. Gauland [e-mail]
>AA7JF   [phone]

Gosh Michael,
My cursive is so bad, *I* can't read it after I write it.
My lettering is guite good (many years of Mechanical Drawing experience)
and so I use lettering for all handwritten correspondence, and CW copy.
However I've had to adopt hybrid style to copy at 25 WPM (my current
threshold).  As stated in an earlier thread, I've tried typewriters
with poor luck, as they are less easy to correct.
What I use is a lowercase cursive 'e' (looks like a squiggle) for "E"
a lowercase "t" with a long tail and no cross for a "the".
a "Plus sign" for "and"
I'd be interested to know what abbreviations others use for characters/words
73 Barnaby  barnaby@world,std,com (AA1IB)
7

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 11 Feb 1994 20:31:04 GMT
From: agate!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!sdd.hp.com!col.hp.com!srgenprp![e-mail]
Subject: Copying High-Speed CW: Print or Script?
To: [e-mail]

Richard L Barnaby ([e-mail]) wrote:

: What I use is a lowercase cursive 'e' (looks like a squiggle) for "E" ...

"E" is the hardest letter to copy fast in Morse code for two reasons:
It is the fastest to send (a single dit) and the longest to write
(4 separate lines).  The standard solution most telegraphers have used
for decades is to write the "E" in a single motion like a backwards "3".

Fortunately, the other short letters (T, I, S) are also fast to write.

AL N1AL

------------------------------

Date: 11 Feb 94 21:13:44 GMT
From: ogicse!news.tek.com!gvgpsa.gvg.tek.com!gold.gvg.tek.com!gvgadg.gvg.tek.com![e-mail]
Subject: Golf Causes Cancer!
To: [e-mail]

> Steve Coletti ([e-mail]) wrote:
> : In article <[e-mail]>, Alan Bloom wrote:
> : > to investigate the death rates of golf course managers.  The study
> : > found that golf course managers have death rates from several kinds
> : > of cancer that are significantly higher than the national norm.

It sounds as though Mark Twain was right when he described golf as

"A good walk ruined."

I wonder if just hanging around all those country club types
could cause cancer.

Grover
WT6P

------------------------------

Date: 11 Feb 1994 16:37:15 -0800
From: news.cerf.net!coyote.rain.org!coyote.rain.org![e-mail]
Subject: Help w/ GE MPro Repeater
To: [e-mail]

 I need help obtaining crystals for a GE MasterPro Repeater
 that I recently obtained and would like to test and prepare
 for operation. Can anyone suggest a Mail-Order outfit that
 would have them. I have the tubes already.
 I just want to start out testing the thing simplex so I can
 learn......
 Please E-mail to [e-mail]   KD6BYG




------------------------------

Date: Thu, 10 Feb 1994 19:25:36 GMT
From: library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news.moneng.mei.com!uwm.edu!mixcom.com![e-mail]
Subject: Nude amateur radio clubs
To: [e-mail]

In <gdavis.760825204@griffin> [e-mail] (Gary Davis) writes:

>There is, according to the CBC, a nudist amateur radio club.

>- In the Buff
>Gary WQ1F

First the "codeless" TECHNICIAN license.  Then an article in the amateur
radio areas of the internet on "erection aids".

Now, nudist amateur radio clubs!  What's become of our hobby?? :-)))

--
  /`-_       [e-mail]  |
 {     }/ Marquette Electronics, Inc  |    I suport publick skools! ;-)
  \    /   Milwaukee, Wisconsin, USA  |
   |__*|  N9SQB, ARRL, Amateur Radio  |

------------------------------

Date: 11 Feb 94 13:57:00 GMT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: ORBS$042.2L.AMSAT
To: [e-mail]

SB KEPS @ AMSAT  $ORBS-042.N
2Line Orbital Elements 042.AMSAT

HR AMSAT ORBITAL ELEMENTS FOR AMATEUR SATELLITES IN NASA FORMAT
FROM WA5QGD FORT WORTH,TX February 11, 1994
BID: $ORBS-042.N

DECODE 2-LINE ELSETS WITH THE FOLLOWING KEY:
1 AAAAAU 00  0  0 BBBBB.BBBBBBBB  .CCCCCCCC  00000-0  00000-0 0  DDDZ
2 AAAAA EEE.EEEE FFF.FFFF GGGGGGG HHH.HHHH III.IIII JJ.JJJJJJJJKKKKKZ
KEY: A-CATALOGNUM B-EPOCHTIME C-DECAY D-ELSETNUM E-INCLINATION F-RAAN
G-ECCENTRICITY H-ARGPERIGEE I-MNANOM J-MNMOTION K-ORBITNUM Z-CHECKSUM

TO ALL RADIO AMATEURS BT

AO-10
1 14129U 83058B   94040.06708801 -.00000148  00000-0  10000-3 0  2607
2 14129  27.2057 342.5166 6022455 153.1354 258.3191  2.05877972 80144
UO-11
1 14781U 84021B   94040.53052044  .00000322  00000-0  62635-4 0  6637
2 14781  97.7907  61.1932 0011408 323.9974  36.0464 14.69140692531560
RS-10/11
1 18129U 87054A   94040.55124186  .00000030  00000-0  16659-4 0  8605
2 18129  82.9210  63.1886 0012804  25.2124 334.9655 13.72330924332409
AO-13
1 19216U 88051B   94040.93964943  .00000390  00000-0  10000-4 0  8755
2 19216  57.8821 268.9522 7208878 334.5703   3.1370  2.09717918 43343
FO-20
1 20480U 90013C   94035.98074861 -.00000022  00000-0  31548-4 0  6561
2 20480  99.0184 212.8744 0540153 279.0888  74.9498 12.83223693187179
AO-21
1 21087U 91006A   94041.01003248  .00000094  00000-0  82657-4 0  4237
2 21087  82.9396 236.8134 0036944  77.6411 282.8874 13.74533854152118
RS-12/13
1 21089U 91007A   94040.58590730  .00000042  00000-0  27829-4 0  6615
2 21089  82.9204 106.0890 0030651 102.2186 258.2406 13.74034795151126
ARSENE
1 22654U 93031B   93338.80803910 -.00000087  00000-0  00000 0 0  2437
2 22654   1.4104 113.5274 2936576 161.9838 210.8642  1.42202044  2990
UO-14
1 20437U 90005B   94037.22619383  .00000077  00000-0  47034-4 0  9612
2 20437  98.5971 123.7526 0010334 214.1893 145.8624 14.29821595210876
AO-16
1 20439U 90005D   94037.21681236  .00000071  00000-0  44536-4 0  7626
2 20439  98.6031 124.8401 0010724 214.1741 145.8750 14.29877371210889
DO-17
1 20440U 90005E   94040.75231196  .00000060  00000-0  40428-4 0  7621
2 20440  98.6061 128.6181 0010852 203.0624 157.0068 14.30016024211408
WO-18
1 20441U 90005F   94037.22688753  .00000066  00000-0  42405-4 0  7628
2 20441  98.6048 125.1409 0011314 214.6745 145.3695 14.29991649210908
LO-19
1 20442U 90005G   94037.21376903  .00000072  00000-0  44757-4 0  7617
2 20442  98.6040 125.3540 0011701 213.9496 146.0939 14.30085714210913
UO-22
1 21575U 91050B   94040.70538846  .00000085  00000-0  43536-4 0  4637
2 21575  98.4469 117.7141 0007501 318.1128  41.9484 14.36888785134771
KO-23
1 22077U 92052B   94041.42783993 -.00000037  00000-0  10000-3 0  3583
2 22077  66.0820 185.3819 0009572 318.8321  41.1977 12.86284604 70485
AO-27
1 22825U 93061C   94037.24428981  .00000055  00000-0  40372-4 0  2598
2 22825  98.6630 114.3002 0008288 227.9109 132.1364 14.27605705 19007
IO-26
1 22826U 93061D   94037.72532850  .00000066  00000-0  44626-4 0  2603
2 22826  98.6651 114.7973 0008457 230.9496 129.0928 14.27708094 19076
KO-25
1 22830U 93061H   94040.70815228  .00000057  00000-0  40495-4 0  2625
2 22830  98.5680 116.3594 0011136 187.2116 172.8898 14.28032363 19500
NOAA-9
1 15427U 84123A   94040.90849396  .00000049  00000-0  50435-4 0  7095
2 15427  99.0697  89.8019 0014366 217.1066 142.9114 14.13586894472362
NOAA-10
1 16969U 86073A   94040.91622187  .00000075  00000-0  50459-4 0  6073
2 16969  98.5109  53.7900 0013419 346.1037  13.9772 14.24863433384485
MET-2/17
1 18820U 88005A   94040.41461213  .00000074  00000-0  52632-4 0  2603
2 18820  82.5397  10.2207 0016130 174.2344 185.9005 13.84706640304670
MET-3/2
1 19336U 88064A   94039.99790931  .00000051  00000-0  10000-3 0  2623
2 19336  82.5380  54.3969 0015730 222.0779 137.9138 13.16964807266383
NOAA-11
1 19531U 88089A   94040.89310848  .00000099  00000-0  78246-4 0  5131
2 19531  99.1603  26.7549 0012242 127.5055 232.7231 14.12957503277247
MET-2/18
1 19851U 89018A   94040.58249263  .00000046  00000-0  27583-4 0  2617
2 19851  82.5181 245.6465 0012880 224.0063 136.0047 13.84356993250031
MET-3/3
1 20305U 89086A   94040.90489425  .00000044  00000-0  10000-3 0  9823
2 20305  82.5493 357.9703 0005714 252.5364 107.5110 13.04423038206305
MET-2/19
1 20670U 90057A   94040.79306496  .00000024  00000-0  79036-5 0  7621
2 20670  82.5504 309.6649 0016176 139.0978 221.1403 13.84188455182995
FY-1/2
1 20788U 90081A   94041.23792391 -.00000256  00000-0 -14146-3 0  8899
2 20788  98.8429  65.4112 0014899   8.2542 351.8867 14.01324157175928
MET-2/20
1 20826U 90086A   94040.59762982  .00000082  00000-0  60627-4 0  7618
2 20826  82.5218 247.4867 0014958  48.7238 311.5204 13.83572578170118
MET-3/4
1 21232U 91030A   94040.56395652  .00000051  00000-0  10000-3 0  6695
2 21232  82.5392 259.8160 0013347 141.0577 219.1526 13.16459526134562
NOAA-12
1 21263U 91032A   94039.95700562  .00000136  00000-0  80464-4 0  9196
2 21263  98.6320  70.4809 0012014 247.6730 112.3172 14.22366100142301
MET-3/5
1 21655U 91056A   94039.95480389  .00000051  00000-0  10000-3 0  6651
2 21655  82.5517 207.2863 0013312 152.8840 207.2989 13.16827561119586
MET-2/21
1 22782U 93055A   94040.74736914  .00000093  00000-0  71559-4 0  2616
2 22782  82.5509 307.4298 0021041 221.4188 138.5364 13.83000237 22471
POSAT
1 22829U 93061G   94037.20759234  .00000070  00000-0  45885-4 0  2520
2 22829  98.6603 114.2924 0009404 217.5862 142.4662 14.28001942 19004
MIR
1 16609U 86017A   94041.42205754  .00011161  00000-0  14078-3 0  1312
2 16609  51.6168 102.3559 0004327 318.6406  41.4259 15.60125914456273
HUBBLE
1 20580U 90037B   94037.44922672  .00000964  00000-0  81415-4 0  4349
2 20580  28.4703 355.6949 0006487 159.4554 200.6293 14.90460557  9866
GRO
1 21225U 91027B   94040.40150147  .00005773  00000-0  13376-3 0   648
2 21225  28.4620  38.7432 0003896 207.9052 152.1343 15.40033195 37217
UARS
1 21701U 91063B   94041.38819457  .00002182  00000-0  21249-3 0  4767
2 21701  56.9858 307.1671 0004660 110.5959 249.5594 14.96301395131953
/EX

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 10 Feb 1994 10:32:12 -0800
From: munnari.oz.au!spool.mu.edu!news.nd.edu!news1.oakland.edu!destroyer!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!mcws![e-mail]
Subject: Power Supply Questions
To: [e-mail]

In general, 200 mV ripple should be adequate for most mobile type
rigs.  As for load regulation, the main thing is not to apply excessive
input to the rig at any time; read the specifications to determine
what that level is.

I tend to operate my mobile type rigs (in the shack) at reduced
potential to increase reliability and lamp life.  Thus, rather than
goosing the rig to 14 Volts to get a little more output, I tend to run
it at 12.2 or so; that way I may never have to fix the thing.

If your power supply has poor load regulation, try adding a bleeder
resistor (dummy load); most of the time the majority of the increase
occurs at less than 10% of rated load due to capacitors charging to
peak values.

Let me know if I can help further; I used to do power supply circuit
design for a living...  73 DE K6DDX

------------------------------

Date: 10 Feb 1994 10:59:58 -0500
From: agate!doc.ic.ac.uk!warwick!uknet!pipex!sunic!psinntp!psinntp!pwcm.com!psinntp!starcomm.overleaf.com![e-mail]
Subject: This Week on Spectrum 02/12/94
To: [e-mail]

This week's Spectrum will feature a listener appreciation and input
segment.  It will be your opportunity to give us feedback.  What you
like, what you don't like and or what you would change if you were in
the Spectrum drivers seat.  In addition we'll have lots of the features
you enjoy.
--
Spectrum airs live Sunday at 0300 UTC (2200 EST Saturday) on:

  WWCR, 5810 KHz, Nashville, TN (World Wide)
  WIFI, 1460 AM, Philadelphia, PA (Philadelphia Area)
  Omega Radio Network, Galaxy III, X17, 5.8 MHz WIDE audio. (Satellite)

Spectrum is rebroadcast:

  Sunday at 1500 EST, on WIFI, 1460 AM, Philadelphia, PA (Philadelphia Area)
  Monday at 0400 UTC (2300 EST Sunday),
         on WWCR, 7435 KHz, Nashville, TN (World Wide)

--
Spectrum, "The Communications Magazine You Read With Your Ears."
Box 722, Holmdel, NJ, 07733-0722, USA
[e-mail], [e-mail], [e-mail]
+1 800-787-SPECTRUM, [phone]

------------------------------

Date: 11 Feb 1994 11:17:42 -0500
From: agate!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!uhog.mit.edu!news.intercon.com!panix![e-mail]
Subject: Yaesu FT-5100 <-> MFJ-1270B
To: [e-mail]

[e-mail] wrote:

: I'm trying to interface a Yaesu FT-5100 to a MFJ-1270B TNC via
: the 5100's DATA IN/OUT jack.  I constructed a connector based on
: the instructions in the 5100 manual.  The problem is that the
: transmit audio level out of the TNC is way too low.  Adjusting
: trimpot R76 during the 1270B recalibration procedure does not help.
: Any suggestions for increasing transmit audio level are appreciated.

: Thanks...

: Bill - KD4CIY

: --

: Bill Plymale    [e-mail]    703-231-9530
: Virginia Tech (Enrollment Services Information Systems)

------------------------------

Date: 10 Feb 1994 13:52:45 GMT
From: concert!news.duke.edu!acpub.duke.edu![e-mail]
To: [e-mail]

References <gdavis.760825204@griffin>, <2jd6kj$[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>l
Subject : Re: Nude amateur radio clubs

Maybe the nude radio club is run by N9UDE

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 11 Feb 1994 16:38:28 GMT
From: agate!library.ucla.edu!news.ucdavis.edu!chip.ucdavis.edu![e-mail]
To: [e-mail]

References <[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>
Subject : Re: Operating in Canada?

Rich Wales ([e-mail]) wrote:

: Please be careful here not to fall into the fallacy of assuming that US
: and Canadian citizenship are mutually exclusive.  Contrary to popular
: belief, US law does =not= ban dual citizenship; and, for that matter,
: neither does Canadian law.  Lots of people are citizens (by birth or by
: naturalization) of both the US and Canada; the US State Department knows
: about them and explicitly doesn't mind.  If anyone is interested in more
: info on this subject, I'll be glad to oblige.
That is only for US citizens.  A Canadian cannot be granted US
citizenship without renouncing thier Canadian citizenship.  I have a
friend who married a Canadian national, she had to renounce her Canadian
citizenship to become a US citizen.  She then went back to Canada and
became a nauralized Canadian too.  In short, you can only have one
citizenship when you accept US citizenship, but you can add others as you
go.

Dan
--
*---------------------------------------------------------------------*
* Daniel D. Todd      Packet: KC6UUD@KE6LW.#nocal.ca.usa              *
*                   Internet: [e-mail]                      *
*                 Snail Mail: 1750 Hanover #102                       *
*                             Davis CA 95616                          *
*---------------------------------------------------------------------*
*     The only thing I can officially say for the University is:      *
*     What I say is in no way related to oficial University policy    *
*---------------------------------------------------------------------*


------------------------------

Date: Fri, 11 Feb 1994 16:23:11 GMT
From: agate!netsys!direct![e-mail]
To: [e-mail]

References <[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>, <2jg9ft$[e-mail]>
Subject : Re: Vertical Antennas

Mike Stansberry ([e-mail]) wrote:

: : (Is anybody else still following this convoluted discussion?)
: : AL N1AL

: Yes, but you're both over my head.  I still read it, though.
: Mike, K0TER

Would everybody (anybody) trust ELNEC to settle this discussion?

73, Cecil, [e-mail]

------------------------------

End of Info-Hams Digest V94 #136
******************************
******************************